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Five Life-Changing Mistakes and How I Moved On
By Julie Wainwright
Co-Founder, SmartNow.com
I’m out meeting with the press right now to promote SmartNow.com and I’m getting quite a reaction. Not to the business, but to me. You see, it’s been awhile since I met with them, at least eight years. Many of the people in the press are same ones I met all those years ago. Many I don’t know. No matter if they knew me before or not, they all ask the same question: "What mistakes have you made and what have you learned from them?" And this isn’t a normal "check-the-box" reporter question. This is a loaded question with heavy reference to my past, some would say my infamous past.
First some background, I was the CEO of Pets.com. In case you haven’t heard of it, Pets.com and its mascot, the Sock Puppet, became the symbol for the dotcom bubble and its subsequent bust. Some have even charged me personally with bringing down the U.S. economy. Pets’ short period of success was fueled by positive press about the company and myself. Pets received even more press when it failed.
As the public CEO, I failed, and it was a very public failure. In fact, I was labeled one of the biggest failures ever. How bad was it? I had people laugh in my face when I introduced myself for years after the company closed. It happened as recently as a year ago. A couple of people asked me what it felt like to be one of the best-known failures in the U.S. Most just walked away from me. One woman told me to my face that I was a loser. I could go on and on, but you get the point: I became a symbol for something greater than myself, and we aren’t talking puppet envy here.
What most people don’t know is that the very same week that Pets.com failed, my marriage of seven years failed as well. Actually, it had been failing for a long time. It became officially over that week. My husband decided to call it quits the day before I announced to the employees and the public markets that I was shutting down Pets. It was a really bad week.
Now, I would like to tell you that I was down but not out. That I just brushed myself off and got on with life. I didn’t. At first, I kept myself hyper-busy. That lasted for about three months. Then, I sank into a depression. I’m sure I was in shock for a long time. It was a very dark, confused time in my life. I kept pushing myself to get back to normal. That didn’t happen.
I never got back to myself. I became better than I was. Note that it is almost seven years since Pets.com failed. Mystics might say I am entering a new seven-year cycle. I kind of think that's true because I believe there are universal laws and truths. I do know I have been on a journey. I have taken stock of the five big mistakes I have made in my life and fought my way through. I’m sure I’ll make some more big mistakes in the future, but hopefully I won’t make the same ones again.
If you have made your own mistakes and are not sure how to get on with your life, perhaps my reflections will help you. And if you make mistakes in the future, I hope my lessons help you in some way and that you will learn from your humanness and not slip slide into a dark place for long.
Mistake 1: I allowed others to define me. I completely defined myself as a failure, as the press did. I read every negative thing said about the company in the press and on message boards. Many were personally directed at me. Needless to say, the new people and jobs I attracted during this time of my life reinforced my negative self-image. None of these people are in my life today.
How I moved on: I got tired of and bored with living in the past. I took stock of myself and decided that I know myself better than others. I am the only one who has taken my journey. I came to recognize that most reactions to me were not personal. I knew at some intrinsic level that my active participation in letting others define my failed past would be carried into my future. I didn’t want to live my own version of the movie “Groundhog Day.” I really wanted to heal. How could I have let others’ opinions of me define and engulf me in the first place? Well, that leads me to the second mistake.
Mistake 2: I built my image of myself on two main supporting pillars. When those collapsed, I did too. What I mean is that I had defined myself as someone who was smart and could figure things out and also someone who was entering middle age as a married woman. The “smart” definition was fostered from my childhood. I was the oldest of four children with a mother who was ill and a father who worked long hours to make ends meet. Whenever I asked my parents a question, they would say: “You are smart, what do you think?” Believing I was smart helped me survive a hard family situation and still make top honors in school. I never bought into being a “pretty” girl; I was the smart one. I was not smart enough for Pets.com. I failed publicly. After more than 20 years of good to great business successes, I had crashed and burned. The second way I defined myself was as a married woman. I liked being married, belonging to a little tribe of two. That pillar crumbled. Or perhaps I pulled both pillars down subconsciously to grow. In any case, both were gone.
How I moved on: Where did this leave me? Lost. What did I do? I started looking for what would feed my soul. I tried to get back to my essence, my best self. I love drawing and painting, so I started doing this again and working with art organizations. I love being around people who solve problems creatively, create art, think differently and express themselves uniquely. I rented funny movies—no kidding. I sought out laughter. I developed relationships with very loving people who laughed. I got involved in my community. I developed a few routines with those around me. This included spending time with a 70-something-year-old woman who vibrated with life and owned the local coffee shop. And, slowly, I began to see myself as more than two key bullet points. I stopped labeling myself and saw those labels as false security. Oddly enough, I began to feel more secure.
Mistake 3: I stopped believing in myself. You can see how the first and second mistakes might lead to the third. For a long time, especially as it came to my own career, I operated out of fear. Fear of failure. And I lived in that space for too long.
How I moved on: At some point last year, I decided that if I believed in myself then I had to invest in myself. I realized that if I didn’t invest in myself I couldn’t expect others to do it, either. I respond to visual goals, so I did a vision board: I took white poster board and I pasted pictures and phrases that represented my goals. The most prominent goal was investing in myself on all levels. I showed myself climbing the proverbial ladder and once again reaching for the stars. And when I had a good business plan in hand, I invested money in my own company. This is the first time I have started a company for myself.
Mistake 4: I stopped taking care of myself. I had gained weight over the years and stopped exercising. When Pets was collapsing, I started exercising again and the pounds had started to come off, so my physical health had started to improve. What I didn’t realize is that my emotional health was deteriorating. I did not recognize my own depression. For at least two years after Pets shut down, I didn’t care if I lived or died. I never actively tried to kill myself; that would go against my Midwestern upbringing. I just didn’t care if I lived. I was also just starting to experience the first symptoms of peri-menopause, so I had to come terms with my own childlessness. I had curiously decided that if I was meant to have a child, then I would have gotten pregnant during my marriage. Not having children reinforced my indifference to life during this period. I didn’t have children to take care of, so what was the point? I was also angry. The anger came in waves.
How I moved on: I wish I would have been more proactive in my own mental health. I did not recognize my state of mind as depression. I mean, I wasn’t crying every day nor did I drive to the Golden Gate Bridge and contemplate jumping. I can honestly say the thought never entered my mind. But I was clearly depressed, and only years later did I realize how much I needed help. I should have seen a therapist and perhaps even gone on medication. I pulled out of this state because I started to see beauty again (see mistake two, which also shows the healing power of art in my life). Once I started seeing beauty, I wanted to see more of it. Once I learned to let go of the anger and fear, I wanted to thrive.
Mistake 5: Allowing my head to rule my heart. If I would have started with this item, it might have seemed too trite. But it isn’t. The head is the ego. Mine was shattered. I had to exercise my heart in order to heal.
How I moved on: To be honest, I’m not sure I have moved past this, but I am doing better. As I moved through the other mistakes and began to heal, I also began to see the world differently. I began to realize that I could be comfortable letting my heart make some decisions. And when those started showing a payoff, I allowed my heart to make even more decisions. Life is richer in the heart zone, but I’m too analytical to give up the head part. I’m just trying to find a better balance every day.
That’s all for now.
Julie Wainwright started her career at The Clorox Company in brand management. She leaped into the world of personal computer software in her 20s after seeing Visacalc do P&L calculations in seconds versus her hand-cranked "what if" scenarios that took hours each day. By the age of 30, she was a group product manager for a $125M+ business. She was promoted to CEO status after she successfully turned around Berkeley Systems with the introduction of the popular game "You Don't Know Jack" (over 1M units sold in its first 12 months). After the sale of Berkeley Systems, Julie joined Reel.com as CEO. That company was sold for nearly $100M after its wildly successful "Titantic" promotion that she orchestrated. She then became CEO of Pets.com — the first site for pets ever funded. Eight others (that she knows about) were funded after it. Pets.com pulled its Sock out of the pack, created an enduring brand and achieved over revenue of $46M in just nine months in 2000. She founded SmartNow.com last year to help women help themselves. The site launched May 30, 2008.
She has been interviewed on CNN several times and Pets.com was covered on all major networks ABC, NBC, CBS, and the BBC. She has been featured in many magazines from those with a business slant to lifestyle magazines such as InShape and Town and Country. She was honored to speak at the 2000 California Governor's Conference on Women and Family. She has spoken at Harvard and Purdue universities and has sat on many business boards including: Wizards of the Coast and Baker and Taylor; and not-for-profit boards including the San Francisco Art Institute, Magic Theatre and Headlands Center for the Arts.
Discussions
AnneGogh responded on July 20, 2008
Julie, most of us are never going to achieve the heights you did as CEO of a company. As just a little ol' freelancer, I hesitate to comment. Uncomfortableness aside, though, I just want to say that I was so touched by your transparency. I haven't been attacked publicly ever, but I've suffered from depression - just recently in fact. It helps a lot to hear personal stories, and it helped to read how you might have handled things differently regarding therapy and/or medication; things I'm debating now myself. So thank you for your valuable post, as I know it will bless others to read it, as it did me.
nancy-ocean responded on July 21, 2008
Dear Anne & Julie,
I wanted to respond on behalf of the healing powers of beauty! Something in Julie drew (pardon the pun!) her to artwork during a very dark time in her journey. And later she stated that it's beauty that keeps her going - the more she sees the more she wants and the more she gets the better she feels. Beauty and creativity can be very powerful in our lives. And it doesn't surprise me that Julie was drawn to these naturally. Anne, maybe the artistic kinds of activities Julie used will support you well as you move beyond the depressive feelings you're dealing with. Walking in nature, along the beach, taking any kind of art class, sketching on blank pages with colored pencils or crayons, playing with clay, playing with color in any and all ways you can think of can be very healing, and perhaps more importantly, nurturing. Coming at a time when nurturing is probably what we need most! (Also, and this may sound silly, but simply turning up the corners of my mouth helps me tremendously! Not a full on smile - just the beginning suggestion of happiness - changes my perspective!)
Hugs, Nancy
AnneGogh responded on August 4, 2008
Nancy, thanks so much for taking the time to offer some great ideas for using creativity to help with depression. Actually during this time I've found that my creative work has been the one thing that's brought me a lot of joy, and feel myself moving up to the surface from some murky waters.
I don't have a lot of time to indulge in all the creative aspects I'd like to, but am going to try and carve in more time for some of the beauty in nature and other creative pursuits. Thank you again.
julie responded on August 2, 2008
Nancy,
Thank you for your insights.
Warmly,
Julie
julie responded on July 20, 2008
Anne,
Thank you for letting me know this. It's very vulnerable to be this open, but I did it because I hoped it would help at least one person.
chris responded on July 31, 2008
I don't normally comment on blogs, but this was a very insightful and transparent post. I could really feel that you were being open and honest with everything your wrote about.
Thanks for sharing and goodluck with everything that you do.
julie responded on August 9, 2008
Thanks, Chris.
Wendy responded on July 30, 2008
Julie,
If the only thing you'd written was how you moved on from mistake #2, it would've been worth it, but everything you shared here is inspiring. Thank you for having the courage to be so open, and for starting this website. I love what you're doing here. Keep it up!
julie responded on July 31, 2008
Thank you, Wendy.
hkremer responded on July 21, 2008
Please post (either on your site or on twitter) the tape of your KRON interview from this last weekend - I'd love to see it! Great site, count me in as a "member" of your "club!" Keep up the good work!
~H
julie responded on July 21, 2008
Thanks, I'll find the KRON tape, didnt know it was up.
julie responded on July 21, 2008
KRON tape is no where to be found. If anyone sees it, let me know. Thanks.
Just4Moi responded on July 23, 2008
You just saved me 6 months of therapy. I've been trying to find a blueprint to a new life for sometime. You made me realize I already have one. I need to believe in myself and shake off the negativity in my life: people, places and things. Thank you for sharing.
julie responded on July 23, 2008
One of the most inspiring things a dear friend of mine said to me during this period was, "I know things are tough for you, but I also know you have everything inside of yourself that you need to be whole and happy again." Those few words caused a shift in me.
I think this applies to all.
Thanks for posting this Just4Moi.
Dino responded on July 24, 2008
Dear Julie,
Hope you remember me, I heard your name on the Saturday KRON 4 news but missed your interview.
Hope your well and this website does wonderful for you.
Best regards,
Dino Vannoni
julie responded on July 24, 2008
DINO! How could I forget you! You are part of my childhood teenage memories. I'm sorry to say I lost touch with Tina. Are you in the Bay Area? Send me a note: Julie@smartnow.com.
Let's talk.
pen responded on July 25, 2008
It is one of life's ironies that we can quickly announce the failure in others, but not in ourselves. You were buried in these pronouncements, yet managed to sort out those which were truly yours from those manufactured against you. You are a true inspiration. Be well.
julie responded on July 25, 2008
Thank you for your kind words.
Debbie responded on July 25, 2008
Julie
Interesting comment about your high school years. Although you were certainly smart and pretty, I rememeber you most for your friendliness to shy girls like me.
And yes I got over that shyness a long time ago.
Good Luck with your new endeavor.
Debbie (Skwiercz) Buckley
julie responded on July 25, 2008
Debbie,
You are so sweet to write that. How are you? Where are you? How wonderful for you to remember that.
Girlfriendology responded on July 27, 2008
Julie - I'm so glad I found you (or you found me?!) on Twitter. It is so inspiring to read your honest, touching history. Thanks for sharing and for inspiring me and so many others.
I am so sorry that people were rude to you and that you had to go through those dark years. Thanks for sharing your lessons with us all so we could understand you better as well as other people going through tough situations. Your story will remind me to look inside the person for their true self and potential.
Again, so glad to have 'met' you! I look forward to interviewing you for a Girlfriendology Podcast. Thanks! Debba
www.girlfriendology.com
julie responded on July 27, 2008
Debba,
Thanks for posting. Looking forward to our podcast.
Warmly,
Julie
Pam responded on July 28, 2008
Jules,
Thank you for your honest self-examination.
I was amazed at how well you seemed to be, both physically and emotionally well, during the period immediately following the shattering of your two pillars. Your smile never wavered, at least when I saw you.
You describe a state of mind a friend of mine calls suicide by accident. She once told me she can asses her state of mind by imagining she steps off a curb and then notices a speeding bus. If her imagined response is, "oh well," she knows she's in trouble. To the outside world, my friend always seems just fine.
You and my nameless friend both might have benefited from deeper listening from your friends when you really needed it.
julie responded on July 28, 2008
Hi Pam,
If only I was that aware in the moments of darkness...
my hindsight is 20/20.
My hope in writing this is to help others see in themselves what I couldn't and to offer some hope and perhaps tools for dog paddling out.
thanks for the post,
hal responded on July 30, 2008
Hi, Julie. It's Hal. Mitch just forwarded this to me. Beautifull written, very courageous and honest piece. You've clearly moved beyond bullet points, to paragraphs. Chapters and books to follow as you continue the journey. You engaged my head and heart: a balance I continually seek as well. Cheers.
julie responded on August 2, 2008
Thank you, Hal.
t0pj responded on July 31, 2008
Came across your post courtesy of Hacker News [news.ycombinator.com].
"I had people laugh in my face when I introduced myself for years after the company closed."
Julie,
On behalf of everyone here at HN, you are welcome here anytime.
You will have the last laugh, I'm sure.
:)
julie responded on August 1, 2008
Thanks, Hacker News.
Ya Chun responded on July 31, 2008
Very nice insights. I've posted a pared down version on my blog, serenityjoy.blogspot.com
julie responded on August 1, 2008
Thank you Ya Chun.
pearl responded on August 1, 2008
Hi Julie,
I've recently been in a position where I publicly failed too, after taking a lot of risks and perhaps (as you did) operating from an old engrained image of myself. Like you, I was always the "smart one," an older daughter, and similarly, in the software product management space. I could relate to a *lot* of what you wrote about.
I really valued your roadmap here. I'm going to come back and re-read this, because I think it will help me shorten my path (hopefully). I think you should remember to honor your courage in taking those risks in the first place. If we don't try to walk, we will certainly never fly. Most people don't take those risks. For me, when I have a full life again, I will want to honor myself for that courage I exhibited, and I honor you for it too.
Sometimes, the meaning of a huge fall-on-your-face failure is not actually clear. Why should we go through so much suffering? But I think somehow it hollows us out, and we live more fully afterwards. I hope that for both of us.
Best,
Pearl
julie responded on August 1, 2008
Pearl,
Thank you. What a wonderful note. I honestly believe if an angel would have tapped me on the shoulder and said "You are really going to mess up and go into a dark place for awhile (and it will seem like forever and you won't see a way out), but then you will find a way out and you will be better. And, you will be able to help others immensely by knowledge of your own humanity and frailty. Will you take the journey?" Well, if I would have been given that option, I would have signed on without hesitation. Looks like I might have done so without knowing I had the option. I wish you the best! Warmly, Julie
anthonykuhn responded on August 1, 2008
I understand this site is mostly aimed a women, but I found it during a search for articles on innovation and business. I linked to your piece, Julie, in my blog for the Innovators-Network because your experiences and honesty are worth their weight in gold. I find that there are many who don't appreciate positivity, energy, and truthfulness these days, so your commitment to some of these values speaks to me and mine. Thank you for an insightful and revealing look at your path back to the good life.
julie responded on August 1, 2008
Thank you, Anthony. I will check out your site.
KareAnderson responded on August 1, 2008
I found you via Ben Casnocha - and what an apt post today from you! For all of us women who were raised to achieve, then let our head rule our heart - instead of engaging both... a habit that is slow to learn it seems yet is soooo nourishing.
Echoing many others here I, too, appreciated your transparency and your clarity.
Having two close friends die in the past three years and a biz partnership collapse I am coming out the other side a more appreciative person. That's one of the lessons.
Over here in Sausalito I am going to keep on reading your posts, join smartnow... and tell others
In a civilization when love is
gone we turn to justice and when
justice is gone we turn to power
and when power is gone we
turn to violence.
Opportunity is often inconvenient.
Remember the many
compartments of the heart,
the seed of what is
possible. So much of who
we are is defined by
the places we hold for each
other. For it is not our ingenuity
that sets us apart, but our
capacity for love, the
possibility our way will
be lit by grace. Our hearts
prisms, chiseling out the
colors of pure light.
julie responded on August 1, 2008
Wow, Kare, you are extremely poetic in your writing. My heart goes out to you for your losses. And, thank you for your loving post.
Warmly,
Julie
longhornkate responded on August 1, 2008
Thank you so much. This is one of the best blogs I've read in a long time.
julie responded on August 2, 2008
thank you, longhornkate!
Rick Segal responded on August 1, 2008
Julie,
I'm a Venture Capitalist here in Toronto Canada. I've given a number of talks about so-called 'failure' as well as mentioning the importance of failure on my blog.
Funny enough, last month, I mentioned you, your history, and your current company, in talk I gave at one of Biz Schools here. I said "I would fund this women in a second because she has 360 degrees of experience, knows the drill and is a wealth of talent"
Your post was forwarded to me by another VC who thinks like I do. I forwarded your post two my 20 something year old daughters with the following note:
"Besides your Mom, here is a role model. Read this, print it out, save it. xoxo Dad"
Best of luck with the new gig.
>R<
Rick Segal, Partner JLA Ventures & Blackberry Partners Fund
P.S. Tell your technical people the zip code space doesn't accept non-US data which means people, like me, are putting in bogus zip codes, diluting your reporting value. Sorry, I'm a geek at heart.
julie responded on August 1, 2008
Rick,
Thank you for your post. We are out raising money, so you know I'll be in touch soon, if I don't hear from you. I'm at Julie@smartnow.com.
Best,
Julie
aziz responded on August 1, 2008
Honest and straight from the heart.
I heard you speak on the only SVASE panel that I attended during my time last year in San Francisco. You were good. You sat next to a former entrepreneur and VC, Skip Glass, and another hardworking entrepreneur, Jonathan Cobb (Kiptronic).
I'd been desperately trying to raise funding after I graduated from my MBA program in Boston, loaded with deferred and accumulating debt and filled with resentment for VCs and angels, because I could not get anyone to even listen to my pitch, since I had no former reputation. I knew then that my company was/is the best internet opportunity around and it would become successful, if only I could convince some investor to give me a shot.
The trouble was that I was seeking justification for myself and my idea, through investment. I had/have a big ego/"head" that was/is pushing me onward, as I perceived failure on a daily basis. We all read the headlines from TechCrunch when a company raises a round, but it turns out that investors don't justify our businesses. They mitigate their risk by finding already justified businesses, totally understandable.
It wasn't until I began to listen to my "heart", (out of desperation), that I was able to understand what I was doing wrong. I had no technical talent to do what I was proposing. I was a guy with an idea and a crap website. That is not a business. So I did what I had dreaded before: I interviewed 200 craigslist applicants, and partnered with a superbly talented CTO. Since we had no developed product yet, I stopped looking for A Round funding, seeking alternative incubators and angels.
Guess what? Within two days of signing away a portion of my business to my partner, (vested of course), we got seed funding from the first incubator I contacted and relocated to an incredible incubator, TechStars, in Boulder, CO. We're at the end of our tenure here, have built a terrific product, built out our team a bit, and are about to secure investment until our next round.
This doesn't mean it's all roses and candy, far from it. We have at least a 3-5 year war we're instigating with a new technology application that I dreamed up long ago, but you know what?
I'm only ready now, after going through the cycle: embarrassment, humiliation, desperation, reflection, concentration, and salvation. Thank you for posting this. It resonates within.
julie responded on August 1, 2008
AZIZ!
Congratulations. Wow. You are really going to set the world on fire now. I can feel it. And, better yet, you will be one wise, wonderful soul. Actually you are. Yeah.
Very happy for you. Please keep me apprised of your progress. I'm officially in your fan club now.
Warmly,
Julie
aziz responded on August 5, 2008
Thank you Julie. I will keep you updated with my progress, and I wish you happiness in your life.
EdShaz/IntegrityHQ responded on August 1, 2008
Will you marry me?
In seriousness, I have printed your piece,
and will share it with family, and friends,
especially the youths.
I often share a similar, (albeit humble compared to yours), life narrative. But was burning out of inspiration.
Your generous revelation was right on time.
I thank you.
~Ed
julie responded on August 2, 2008
Thanks for the note, Ed. I appreciate all. As for the marriage proposal-well, I haven't even used online dating services, making the leap for marriage via email feels like trying to jump across the Grand Canyon..at least right now ;)
ghennipher responded on August 1, 2008
What a truly beautiful and insightful article. I relate to this on so many levels, as many of us who have ventured into starting our own businesses can. Thank you for offering such a personal view into your path to happiness. This is one of the most important blog posts I've ever read about moving on and choosing success and happiness despite past mistakes. Best wishes to you.
julie responded on August 2, 2008
Thank you for the wishes. Back at you, as Ellen would say.
VincentWright responded on August 1, 2008
Wow, wow, wow, wow, WOW, Julie!!
Some of those wows are for your story.
Some of the wows are kudos for you, your inner strength, and your writing/storytelling ability.
But, some of those wows are for the serendipity which brings other readers and me to hear about your story, Julie. (I saw your story referred to by one of my followers on Twitter.com)
I can't quite put the importance of your story into words but, for now, please let me simply say "Thank you!" for sharing this. I believe it will encourage many of us to take one more deep breath and try to fix ourselves one more time.
julie responded on August 2, 2008
thank you.
MikeS responded on August 1, 2008
Nice article, and your self honesty got my attention.
There are positives and negatives in everything. "The heart" is never wrong. What makes it seem like it can be wrong is that our ability to listen, to feel, to just hook-up with all the stuff around us is often weak. Everything we need is always around us. We don't see it. If we get an inkling, we don't fully trust it. But it's always there...the right things, the needed things. Always. Have to see it, see it often enough to begin to trust what you see and feel. That's tough. I know. But you are well on your way. Good luck as you move forward.
julie responded on August 2, 2008
Thank you, I'm touched. I've more questions come to me about the heart part..and all of those (I think) were from men. It is hard to separate head from heart-thank you for this post.
rachel responded on August 1, 2008
Julie...I believe strongly that what you need, you will find and tonite that was shown to me. Recently I suffered losses in the workforce (no where near comparable to yours) that hit me very hard. I'm a 29 year old executive who thought she had reached her goals only to be quickly and strongly reminded that you can never stop trying. I am slowly building myself up and feel so rejuvenated after reading your letter. I don't have to give up and I can be more than I was before. I don't have to listen to what people say becuase the know only a portion of who I am. Thank you for your brilliance and for being so brave in stepping out to support those around you. - rachel
julie responded on August 2, 2008
Rachel-
Good luck and if I can be of help or support, let me know. You can reach me at: Julie@smartnow.com.
Warmly,
Julie
MikeSchinkel responded on August 1, 2008
Wow. I've often thought of Pets.com as the poster child for the lack of vision of the dotcom era but never had a put a face or a personality to it. I definitely have a much different (better) impression now. Your courage and the quality of your thought and your writing shine through.
That said, your story is oh-so similar to mine albeit my failure was not nearly as visible as your. At one point everyone in our industry knew our name (and mine) and we were recognized by a leading business magazine for our success. But now I'm in that rebuilding process and have been for several years. It's actually a lot harder at 45 to reinvent oneself than it is to invest oneself at 20-something. Hopefully I will be able to look back in a few years and have a similar positive outcome from my situation.
Anyway, good luck to you. Oh, and don't define yourself too much; you seem to be not only smart but also pretty.
julie responded on August 2, 2008
Hi there,
It is harder to build in your forties...because the risks seem to be more real and the financial demands are real. And, it can be easy to lose the wonder and enthusiasm that can manifest a truly great business. If I can be of support to you at all, happy to do so.
nelking responded on August 2, 2008
I stumbled upon your post from Twitter. I must admit, I frequently refer to Pets.com as an example of those wild ideas that we all thought were great. So many people were caught up in the hype. It's easy to pretend now that we knew better. Thanks for putting the human face to it all and sharing your lessons. I think your article is one I can share with others who are going through a sever career change. I look forward to seeing how things develop for you.
julie responded on August 2, 2008
thank you for the note.
askpatty responded on August 2, 2008
Great post and I can really relate. As CEO/President of www.askpatty.com I have to have talks with myself daily to remind myself ..YES I can do this!
This is posted on my desk:
"You gain strength , courage and confidence by every experience in which you really stop to look fear in the face...You must do the thing you think you cannot do."
Eleanor Roosevelt
Hope your new business is a smash hit!
Jody DeVere
CEO/President
www.AskPatty.com
julie responded on August 2, 2008
Hi Jody,
Went up to your site. I love the service you are providing. We have to work together on some level. Thanks for the direct email, too. Will be in touch soon.
ravi responded on August 2, 2008
Julie, you proved to be a very successful person and professional in all aspects of your career. Problems do exist and they manifest when time is fit but you showed courage to fight the odds and pull through. You had the initiative that most people will never have due to their lack of self esteem. You have been very fortunate to have had a position as a CEO and to have come up with wonderful websites. You are a total success. Continue doing what you do because it is working for everyone. God Bless You, Ravi.
julie responded on August 2, 2008
Ravi,
Thank you so much. You are such a generous soul.
Warmly,
Julie
ADCastillo responded on August 2, 2008
Julie....I can relate to your life story on many different levels. I am in my mid 30's, going through a bit of a depression, trying to start a new business and raising 3 kids. I have spent many sleepless nights lately contemplating my life, goals, past and future. It is horrifying to look back at the numerous mistakes and failures that have marked my adult life until now. It seems that trying to reinvent yourself, especially when there are others depending on you, is not a simple task. Nevertheless, I feel that I must take stock of my life and make it what I want it to be from this point forward. After all, if I don't - who will? Your article has inspired me to keep forging ahead, no matter how difficult it can be some days...thanks!
julie responded on August 2, 2008
AD,
You and your courage inspire me. Let me know if I can ever help you. Not sure what I can do..plus as my friend said to me and now I'll say to you, 'you have all you need inside of you to be happy and successful, you just need to listen to your own spirit.'
Good luck and please let me know how you are doing,
Julie
jamesthewitch responded on August 2, 2008
Thanks so much for sharing, Julie. I really appreciate your candor and your openness about learning from life's "mistakes". A great article written from a learning-wisdom perspective!
julie responded on August 2, 2008
Thanks, James.
Alex Birch responded on August 2, 2008
This was a very powerful, poignant introspection. I appreciate your advice, even if I'm a 31 year old male.
PS Your site's design is absolutely amazing!!!
julie responded on August 2, 2008
Thanks, Alex.
francine responded on August 2, 2008
Whatever your next venture is, i'm in! There is no true success without what you have been through. I'm so proud that you are a woman, you have the courage to express this, and you have the courage also to express your personal failures. I wrote a book about my own failure, which happened to be in foster parenting. Believe me, the feelings aren't any different that those surrounding business failure (I have had both). Oh, and Ive had a bunch of failed marriages, too. Now I look at them as necessary pieces of a long and happy life, but at the time...namaste
julie responded on August 2, 2008
Francine,
Thank you for sharing. Here's to really living,
Julie
Baeocystin responded on August 2, 2008
Hi Julie.
Do you want to know what I remember most about pets.com? I remember that you managed to find a way to donate your warehoused supply of dog/cat/pet food to local animal shelters before running out of money, instead of letting it rot while the bankruptcy worked its way through.
And I remember being very impressed. Not many people, or companies, would have taken the time to do something like that.
At the time, I didn't know enough about the company to know you were the CEO, but I made a mental note to mention this little story if I ever met someone who worked at pets.com. And here you are, so here you go; hopefully a happy memory from that time. :)
Robert
julie responded on August 3, 2008
Wow, I can't believe you know that story. I received a letter from the Governor of Alaska thanking me for helping save sled dogs lives. It meant so much to me.
Also, just to set the record straight, I actually shut the company down with a net positive worth and returned money to the shareholders because I knew the bubble had burst and did not want to run to bankruptcy. That was never reported correctly by the press. But, my investors and my board knew it to be true. The first time in the history of Nasdaq that has ever been done..not a first I wanted.
Thanks you so much for bringing the dog story to light and also giving me an opportunity to talk about it again.